Managing the effects of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill as Deputy Incident Manager and implementing 21st century aviation security solutions as TSA Administrator, Peter Neffenger has been on the front lines of some of our nation’s most complex challenges.

Neffenger, a Distinguished Senior Fellow at the Global Resilience Institute, shared some of these experiences and the lessons learned, during the latest episode of the Atlantic Council’s Resilient World podcast, stressing the importance of building resilience into systems.

“Resilience as a system is a great way of thinking and there’s probably no better illustration of what happens when you don’t think about resilience as a system when you look at some of the disasters we have dealt with,” Neffenger said.

During the podcast, Neffenger detailed the complexity of the response to the Deepwater Horizon oil spill and shared some of the behind-the-scenes moments, including briefing President Obama.

“That oil spill was actually multiple events, people think of it as an oil spill but it was really an event of magnitude,” said Neffenger. “The oil spill itself, then the technical challenge of trying to plug that well which was separate from the spill. You had the cleanup of the oil at the surface of the water right above the well location which was about 75 miles off the coast of Louisiana and then you had the potential for oil to come ashore. So you had all these different events going on at once.”

Neffenger also assessed whether our nation is retaining institutional memory and passing on the lessons learned from one crisis to the next effectively, from administration to administration.

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Admiral Peter Neffenger (USCG Ret.) served as the Administrator of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) from July 2015 to January 20, 2017. Prior to his leadership role at the TSA, Neffenger was the 29th Vice Commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard, earning the rank of Vice Admiral. Previous positions include Coast Guard Deputy Commandant for Operations, where he directed the organization’s global strategy and policy, and Deputy National Incident Commander for the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill, where he served a crisis management expert.

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